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Mercedes question Red Bull Hungarian GP strategy

Mercedes question Red Bull Hungarian GP strategy

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Mercedes question Red Bull Hungarian GP strategy

Mercedes question Red Bull Hungarian GP strategy
Ian Parkes & Ewan Gale

Mercedes has revealed to being surprised by the pace advantage it held over F1 title rivals Red Bull over the Hungarian Grand Prix weekend.

Red Bull was the favourite for the event given the high-downforce nature of the Hungaroring and its previous dominance on twisting circuits this year.

But in qualifying it was a Mercedes front-row lockout as Lewis Hamilton finished half-a-second faster than third-placed Max Verstappen, although a pace comparison in the race was impossible due to the effects of the turn one meleé triggered by Valtteri Bottas.

Asked if the team was surprised by its advantage, trackside engineering director Andrew Shovlin questioned Red Bull's decision making.

"We thought that this was a circuit that should suit them," insisted Shovlin.

"The other thing that always worries us when we come to a max-downforce circuit is we are frequently running around on our max-downforce wing and then they bring it out for the Monacos and this place but maybe they couldn't balance that.

"They went away from it on Saturday and for us, it seems odd that you would ever run anything other than your biggest rear wing here.

"We don't profess to know why they are taking decisions on that car but it could be that they were just struggling to get enough front end on the big wing and they dropped down to the smaller one."

Mercedes update providing "useful performance"

Mercedes last major update of the season was added to the W12 at Silverstone, yielding instant results - albeit in controversial circumstances.

In Hungary, it was clear the upgrades worked well but Shovlin explained the team will need to take time to understand why.

"That is something we need to look at the next few days," he added.

"We are down to pretty small developments now, to be honest, but we did have the update kit in Silverstone and that does look like it has given us some useful performance.

"But then the car was working well here in terms of where it was maintaining the tyre temperatures and we had quite a nice balance with it.

"To be honest, we are surprised by it ourselves. A pleasant surprise but we were surprised to have that margin to pole, for instance."

What do you think?
Robert

Maybe the "Hot Air " turbulence from Horner interfered with his performance.MB 1-2 Lockout on grid brought a reality check to RB and their supposed dominance.

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Maybe the "Hot Air " turbulence from Horner interfered with his performance.MB 1-2 Lockout on grid brought a reality check to RB and their supposed dominance.

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It is MB who claim RBR to have a faster car; RBR only mention they have a better driver .

It is MB complaining constantly over 'they are too fast!', 'They have a better car', 'we don't expect we're a le to close the gap', while each time they perform relatively well.

It is MB complaining about the pitstops.

It is MB complaining about the rear wings.

It is lH complaining about EVERYTHING when he isn't driving 1st position during the race.

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What if the Red Bull of Max didn't have all the upgrades that it had in Silverstone due to the crash?. And may that's that Horner was truly up in arms about.

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They don't just make one set of upgrades OTA, so whatever updates we're on at silverstone we're likely on at Hungary, less any changes They would have made as silverstone is a completely different track and requires a different aero package.

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Not completely true, max drove with damaged engine mounts in the quali, now this may not seem like much but every experienced tuner knows how much power you can lose via bad engine mounts, they swapped this for the race but we never got to see the difference thanks to bottas and mercedes

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Fizzlee very stupid to write thanks to Bottas and Mercedes,

Why is it Mercedes fault,did the car brand tell Bottas to crash into Lando?

If Horner thought that he would have called the lawyers just like he threatened to do after the Silverstone crash!

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Martin, he talks facts instead of emotions.

A fact is that Bottas/MB caused a major chaos and to severely damage both RBR cars.

Hence: Statement Fizzlee is 100% correct that we do not know how the car would have performed, as Bottas/MB ruined another race

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^ maybe that's why

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Can anyone tell my why the Mercedes of Hamilton towards the end of the race is 2 seconds faster then anyone else in the Hungaey race he was catching the leaders like they were standing still

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Because Hamilton is the GOAT

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Hamilton had a lot of pace in clean air after he eventually found a way passed Alonso, same was true after his pit stop ~L49

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